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Mike Spitzer Interview
October 2002

Mike Spitzer was Yngwie's manager from 1999 to Jan 2002. Within this interview you will find many answers to various questions that have been floating around the web and here at the YJMGA forum. Mike let us know the situation with WTEAW, Spitfire Records and Tour difficulties amongst other - all of which have been answered honestly and openly.

YJMGA would like to thank Mike for the time he took for the answers and for the depth of answer.

Can we start at the beginning. How did you first get to know Yngwie and what led to you becoming his manager?
I was introduced to Yngwie by Anne Petty sometime around 1994-1995 right before "Magnum Opis" was released. We seemed to hit it off pretty well and kept in contact as friends after that point. We would occasionally get together for dinner, play pool, or other things together. As for how this developed into working together. Even though we were friends, we never discussed business matters. But one evening at dinner Yngwie asked me to take a quick glance at some papers that he thought looked funny. He wanted a second opinion. After looking them over I agreed with him that something did not look right. I suggested he hire an independent accountant to go through everything in detail and properly review everything. The result of the accountant's findings contributed to Yngwie's decision to dismiss his old management company. After a revelation like this coming to light, Yngwie was not in a very trusting mood towards any outside management at that point.

Because of my business experience and our past years of friendship, it just evolved that I would fill the role of management until many of these problems could be sorted out and rectified. I had other obligations at the time to a company I had recently sold. I was required to stay on for three (3) years to assist with the management transfer. This prevented me from traveling with Yngwie or dedicating 100% of my time to him, however until which time Yngwie found a full time manager he was comfortable with, I felt I could at least do better for him than his past management company had been doing in recent years. I split my time evenly between my other company and Yngwie, so for those two years I was basically working two management jobs.

How big a mess was Yngwie's business affairs in after the departure of Lewis Entertainment?
I don't know if "mess" is the right word. But there were some problems. As has been already mentioned several times in the press, on the internet and in interviews with Yngwie himself; it appeared based on the accountants findings that the old management did not seem to always be handling financial matters properly. That was of course an issue to be researched by professional lawyers and accountants. It is a very common occurrence in the entertainment industry. But once that was in the hands of accountants and lawyers to deal with, my focus with Yngwie was to try some new ideas to increase his presence. It seemed to me that he had not been energetically marketed and promoted in recent years outside of Japan.

What was your first area you felt you needed to work on with Yngwie's career to get it back where we all feel it deserves to be?
In today's music scene it is very hard to get attention for an artist. There are so many products, bands, major labels, movies, cable TV, etc. all competing for people's attention in the mainstream media. The major labels pretty much own radio airplay so that is almost impossible to get anymore. I thought we should try a "carpetbomb" approach meaning endorsements, magazine ads, AOL chats, internet forums, independent cable, etc... Basically the idea was to get Yngwie's music and image seen and heard in as many places as possible at the same time so that the synergistic effect of all these small media spots might add up to create a new buzz and awareness for Yngwie and his music.

Was getting a U.S. deal your main priority?
Yngwie has always been very strong in Japan and Asia, so no special attention was given there. I basically envisioned a Three (3) Tier Strategy....
1) Regain USA Market and Name Awareness
2) Improve presence in Europe with a better label and distribution
3) Diversify into "non-Heavy Metal" areas like PBS, Film Scores, etc...

How many labels did you have negotiations with and why did you go with Spitfire?
We were speaking with four (4) labels in the USA who had an interest in Yngwie. In the end SPITFIRE was the most energetic and of course has Dio, Ted Nugent, Alice Cooper, Sebastian Bach and others on the label so it seemed like a great match. They outlined the most extensive marketing plan in their offer and wanted the back catalog also. SPITFIRE was simply the best overall deal.

The deal you put together with Spitfire was Yngwie's first domestic distribution deal in several years. Unfortunately the relationship only lasted for one album. What went wrong?
I really don't know what happened to the Spitfire deal this year. When I was working with Yngwie, they had every intention of releasing his next album. In fact, just a few weeks before departing as Yngwie's manager; Spitfire had sent a message stating "Congratulations, we are pleased to announce that Spitfire Records has chosen to exercise it's option for your next album". Based on that, it seemed they were ready to go forward with the US release of "Attack". As stated above, I don't know what changed. Questions like these regarding Yngwie's career after January 2002 would really have to be directed towards his new management.

I do however have a theory what happened to Yngwie and some other artists who likewise saw their release plans change this past year. They may have been casualties of the current US economy and internal changes at Spitfire Records itself.

During this past year, Spitfire Records went thru a bit of a re-organization from its parent company. During this time the President of Spitfire Records Paul Bibeau left the company to pursue other interests and to form his own new company. It is totally possible that during this re-organization the parent company started re-viewing its artist roster and changing policies on some of it's earlier decisions.

I have no way of knowing this of course, but since I do know there were changes at Spitfire during this past year and the USA economy has been slow, it would seem a logical possibility.

Don't forget music sales in the USA last year for the entire industry were down 30%. Unfortunately for artists a large portion of this is due to unauthorized MP3 downloads and other forms of illegal copying/theft.

Did sales of WTEAW and the back catalogue meet predicted figures?
Spitfire had told me that they were pleased with Yngwie's overall sales. Like I said earlier, they originally expressed their intent to exercise their options for future albums. They would not have done that if they were not pleased. As I theorized above, the sluggish USA economy and corporate changes inside SPITFIRE itself may have derailed plans for Yngwie and some other artists on their roster during the year. SPITIRE knew that real fans would already own Yngwie's past Pony Canyon albums via import. They hoped to gain a new younger audience of listeners in the USA by re-releasing the back catalog on the coat tails of "War To End All Wars".

Wth Yngwie's lower profile in the USA for the past 8 years, it seemed probable that many younger listeners would be discovering Yngwie for the first time.

You must have read all the criticism that came from not only the media but fans about the sound of WTEAW - do you feel it was justified?
I believe even Yngwie has commented in interviews that he is now unhappy with the production on "War To End All Wars". He has also sworn to never have that repeated as evidenced by the "Concerto" and "Attack" albums which have very good sound. I agree that the sound quality (on WTEAW)is not up to par with other Yngwie abums.

Do you think Yngwie heard that record as it truly sounded to others?
There is a strange thing about the "War To End All Wars" album. When I came on as Yngwie's manager, the album was already recorded. In fact, my only real contribution to this album is helping Yngwie get the cover artwork from Frank Frazetta which he really loved; and getting the US record deal. The odd thing is that Yngwie gave me a copy of his personal "rough mix" that he was listening to in his car before the album was released. It sounds so much better than the version that was officially released. Less low end mud and rumble, more high end clarity and the vocals were more pronounced. As you know, Yngwie loves to work on an album, get ready to tour and then move forward to the next album. He never looks backwards and rarely listens to his own older albums. I have sometimes wondered if Yngwie listened to the same "rough mix" that he gave me a copy of and gave it the "thumbs up" approval for the engineer he had at the time to go ahead and do the final mix. However, after that point something went wrong with the settings used during the rough mixes getting changed and the sound quality suffered during the last stages. I don't know. All I can say for sure is the "rough mix" copy sounds clearer than what was released.

What is your opinion now of WTEAW - sonically was it a mistake?
I would have to say that the sound quality of WTEAW's production hampers the ability to enjoy the album to its fullest. Yngwie and I offered to do a complete re-mix and re-master to the labels so that once they moved to a second pressing, they could release and advertise a REMIXED version, but they never really responded to this offer while I was onboard.

In support of WTEAW, Yngwie did a package tour with Dio, was this a label desicion and do you think Yngwie would have better on a bigger package?
Spitfire made that recommendation since DIO was already being set up to tour the USA to promote "Magica". An Yngwie and Dio team up seemed a good idea. In addition to the Dio tour we also set up what was the possibly the biggest tour of Yngwies entire career covering USA, Europe, Japan, Asia and Central America.
In fact Yngwie played many places for the first time ever on this tour. In hindsight we may have been a bit too eager and tried to cover too big of an area on this tour since Yngwie literally was away from home for almost 8-9 months straight.

Do you think that Yngwie needs to be supporting bigger acts to get more exposure or is he happy with the size of touring his does under his own name?
A little known secret in the industry today is "Pay To Play". In the good old days you could offer to open for a larger act for free and gain some new exposure that way. Those days are gone. Now you have to "Pay to Play". This means that many young new bands and their independent labels have to dig up cash to pay large headliner acts so they can open for them. Opening for a large multi-Platinum band may seem like a great idea to get exposure to a fresh audience, but it could prove cost prohibitive to get that opening slot.

I remember you posted on the YJMGA forum if anyone had contact details for Rob Halford (ex Judas Priest) and Tony Martin (ex Black Sabbath), was it an idea to have a collaboration with a more well known vocalist than say a Boals or a Vescera?
When the idea of Yngwie starting fresh with a whole new band developed, we were looking to speak with several singers. As you know Doogie White ended up being the man for the job.

Do you think Yngwie would be open to working with a big name singer (e.g. Ronnie Dio) or is Yngwie unable to work with musicians that woud not necessarily stick to Yngwie ideas and lyrics?
This was actually an idea being tossed around with Spitfire for awhile. We were talking about a "super group" which would feature many of the Spitfire artists working together on an album, but the logistics made it impossible to get everybody on the same page. WTEAW saw Yngwie have more exposure than he had in years - via printed media and internet sites.

Did you feel that the smaller websites were just as important to target as the main industry magazines?
When you are not a major artist on a major label with the music styles and flavor of the day in your favor, every bit of exposure adds up and is beneficial to the common goal. I referred to a "carpet bomb" approach earlier...Hit everything you can. If Yngwie started simultaneously appearing in magazine ads, signature model equipment, AOL chats, Websites, magazine interviews, endorsements, etc. people would have to say "I have to check this out, things are happening here". That was the idea. Certainly the fan websites assist with this approach.

How far down the chain did you have to start to build some hype over Yngwie again? Was it from grass root levels and re-establishing older avenues that have proved fruitful in the past?
I can't say I ever thought of it that way. It was more of a "what needs the most attention first" mindset. In the USA, nothing was happening so that was the first area to get a label and exposure. In Europe, things were good but a stronger label could make it even better so that was phase 2. etc. It was really all a matter of priorities. What needed attention the most and first. There is always room to improve.

Joe Satriani has been quoted in several interviews over the last few years of saying he has asked Yngwie to do a G3 tour, was Yngwie ever approached whilst you were at the helm? If so why did it not happen?
I was never contacted by anybody regarding G3 while working with Yngwie.

The Japanese and Asian territories seem to be Yngwie's strongholds, does the commercial successes in these areas mean that success is not quite so important elsewhere?
Every fan and every region is equally important. It just so happens the Japanese show more enthusiasim and support for Yngwie and his music. They seem more dedicated and loyal while the "flavor of the day" seems to change rapidly in Europe and the US. Yngwie has been a favorite with the Japanese for about 12-13 years now. In the US and Europe some new bands don't even have careers that last that long. You have to respect the dedication and loyalty of the Japanese fan.

Does Yngwie's popularity in those territories fund touring etc in Europe and the US?
Each region is pretty much treated and handled independently in regards to tour support and such since each label knows its territory best.

Did you ever discuss with Yngwie how he should present himself in interviews as non YJM fans often have a perception of him being arrogant?
I never discussed anything like this with Yngwie. In fact in interviews which occurred around the time of WTEAW I seem to recall Yngwie having a more relaxed viewpoint and acknowledging that he was a little wild and arrogant when younger but that age and fatherhood had changed his views on many things and he was different guy today.

Does Yngwie actually listen to anyone?
I can only answer for myself, but Yngwie would ask my opinion on many things. We seemed to have a mutual respect for one another and I never saw many of the behaviours that others attribute to him in the press.

Do you know what really happened on the WTEAW tour with Jorn Lande etc? If so what?
Since as I mentioned earlier, my other business obligations prevented me from traveling on the road with Yngwie, I was not present to witness the precise event for myself so I can't really comment with 100% accuracy and fairness. It is however interesting to note that since leaving Yngwie, Jorn has also left ARK and I have been told that he recently left another band he was working with recently. So there may be a pattern here.

What led to you parting company with YJM?
People seem to love scandal and conspiracy in today's society, but I fear the truth here is nowhere near as exciting. In a short period of time we seemed to have lots of good things going for Yngwie...new USA record contract, more exposure, Signature model pedal from DOD, a signature amp in development, endorsements and magazine ads from Celestion, JJ/Tesla, DOD. We also had negotiations going with SPV to become the new label in Europe, talks with PBS and some independent film companies for soundtracks, Pay-Per-View TV appearances, guest appearances on other albums, Clinics, more Concerto shows, etc. etc. etc. With all this starting to develop and Yngwie not wanting to lose that momentum, he felt the time had arrived that he needed a FULL TIME manager to keep pushing things along. I was getting overextended trying to maintain both of my job positions, however I was under contractual obligation to the company I had sold. I was required to to stay onboard for 8 more months. There was no way I could become Yngwie's full time manager at that time. I was not going to stand in Yngwie's way or risk letting him lose that momentum, so we met one day for lunch and agreed it was time for me to step aside and let him continue forward with a manager who could dedicate 100% of their time to his career. It is really as simple as that.

Do you believe that the separation came at the wrong time? What did you have in the pipeline - any future plans/ideas that you can tell us about?
In addition to giving Yngwie all his files. I also typed up a letter for him to give his new manager outlining everything that was in the works so they could hit the ground running when they took over. This included a new label negotiation with SPV in Europe, an appearance on Ultimate Fighting on Pay Per View, a guest appearance on a Swedish Folk Album, attending some guitar clinics in Florida, PBS TV broadcast of CONCERTO Live, and some other things. Everything transitioned over smoothly and I think they successfully landed most of those things which were "in the pipeline".

Since your departure news items, tour dates have been virtually none existent to websites like mine and Freek's YMO from the new management team. Where our websites important to you and do you feel we had a viable place in helping market Yngwie?
I must confess I have not really been following developments over the past year very closely. I visit the fan sites once a month or so to check on news, but really don't keep a close tab on things. I think the websites serve an important function as long as they report accurate information and not negative rumors.

Is Yngwie aware of his many fan sites out on the web?
He is not the kind of guy who sits and web surfs all day, but he is aware of the fan sites out there? Certainly.

Who is Denise Love and how well do you feel she is managing Yngwie's career?
I met Denise when she took over the role as Tour Manager for Yngwie's WTEAW Europe Tour. She was very nice and competent I thought. She made my life easier. We had major problems with tour managers on that tour. Many seemed to let us down along the way. Normally an artist manager will work with labels and agencies to set up a worldwide tour. This means you get the venues and negotiate the prices. While the Artist Manager may visit his artist on the road, he does not usually live on the road with the band every night for 7-8 months straight. He spends most of his time at the home office working on other aspects of the career.

Instead you hire a Tour Manager. You sit down with this guy along with the itinerary and budget and it is his job to arrange transport, hotels, flights, advance shows, work papers and generally live/travel with the band on the road to insure things go smoothly each day. As fans will know, we had to replace tour managers on this lengthy tour because we had problems like improper work papers and other things. When Denise took over in Europe; the remainder of the tour went smoothly all the way thru to Central America. No more 3:00 am emergency phone calls. She did a great job making that tour work.

Rhino Amps - what led to your involvement with the company?
Yngwie had long desired an amp he could simply plug into with no pedals and get his sound. Also the 30+ year old Marshall's were starting to fail more often on the road after long years of touring and heavy travel. Yngwie and I both thought it would be a great idea if he could keep his most precious vintage Marshall's safely at home in the studio and use something else on the road where things get beat up pretty badly. We were working with Marshall on a signature model amp, but in the end analysis, Marshall felt the market would be too limited for what was turning out to be a very costly and specialized high-end amplifier to meet Yngwie's specs.

By coincidence this young and newer company in Texas was trying to put their name on the map building boutique amplifiers at more affordable prices. They were willing to meet all Yngwie's design specs to deliver the amp he wanted.

What role did Yngwie play in the development of the sig Rhino amp? From the literature I have I get the impression it was more an amp that was dedicated to duplicating Yngwie's tone rather than one that was built for him to all his tonal requests?
As you know when we designed the YJM308 Overdrive Pedal with DOD, we took apart Yngwie's favourite old gray DOD250 and wrote down the specs for all the resistors, diodes, op-amps, etc. The idea being to not just create a re-issue of a gray DOD250 but to replicate one very specific DOD250, Yngwie's personal favourite. This was obviously a success since Yngwie used this pedal for the entire "Attack" album.

With the YJM50-Blackstar Amp, the idea was to have an amplifier that cloned Yngwie's favorite Overdrive, MKII head, noise suppressor etc. all in one box so no cables or pedals were needed. We wrote down all the specs of Yngwie's favorite Marshall (cap values, transformers, plate voltage, tube bias, etc. Here again the idea was not to simply build a clone of a 30 year old Marshall, but to build an amp that duplicated Yngwie's current favorite amp accounting for it's age and other variants in servicing over the years. In other words, the amp is meant to duplicate Yngwie's favorite amp as it exists today, not the way it was built 30 years ago. Also instead of building a costly handwired amp (like the 30 year old originals and modern boutique amps), the idea was too use a circuit board design to keep the cost down and make the amps consistent in a mass production environment. So you have the choice, spend $4,000 for a pristine, all-original 1972 MKII amp, an old 1978 DOD Overdrive, etc. or spend around $800 for a brand new equivalent.

I think this is a unique idea with amplifier design to artificially "age" the circuit design. Fender did that with the Steve Ray Vaughn guitar when they had a computer map out his worn down fretboard and then cut the necks out to duplicate the wear pattern.

How come Yngwie has not yet been seen playing his signature Rhino Amps, tending to rely on his Marshall's in the studio and for current live work?
I know when I was still with him, Yngwie liked the final prototype because he called me up late one night after playing it in his studio. He could not believe how close it sounded to his old Marshall rig. He was very excited about the amp that night saying every company in the world had sent him amps over the years but nothing captured his sound like this RHINO BLACKSTAR YJM50 did.

The only complaint he had was the noise gate was not exactly perfect to his ear. RHINO was going to work on that further. Even as good as it is, I don't think the RHINO will ever replace his beloved Marshalls in the studio. After all the RHINO is meant to reproduce this signature tone, but the old 30+ year old Marshalls are the real thing to Yngwie.. I believe the RHINO will end up out on the road in the future and/or in those venues where the Fender Roc-Pro used to be used. Fender has discontinued the Roc-Pro line so the RHINO will probably be Yngwie's replacement for that.

You also organised a lot of endorsement ads e.g. JJ Tubes, Dod, Celestion where these companies eager to have Yngwie on their roster?
They were very pleased.

Does Yngwie get free gear from these kind of deals? Do they impose any restrictions on what he can be seen to be using?
Endorsement deals by nature involve free equipment use in exchange for the use of an artists name and image. As long as nobody gets nutty, there is no reason for there to be limits on the equipment. Of course I suppose if you did something crazy like ask Fender for 20,000 guitars or something like that they would raise questions, but in reality the artists and companies work well together.

Staying on gear I know this is an area you have a lot of interest in. Which album has your favourite YJM guitar tone and why?
I like the guitar sound and overall production sound on both "Inspiration" and "Magnum Opus". Everything seems so balanced.

The Concerto was a big success, do you know what happened to the proposed PBS TV showing of the concert?
PBS is hard to break into, but they were interested. I don't know what ended up happening after I left. I have to say "Concerto Live" is the thing I am most proud of working with Yngwie. I was with him from the beginning to the end of that project. The "Concerto" of course is 99.99% Yngwie, but regarding the DVD package, I was able to get some input there. The Japanese were originally only going to release the concert in its original form with no special features. When you see the song titles fade in and out at the beginning of each song, or look at the bonus material on the DVD, those were my suggestions. Originally Pony Canyon had no plans for Bonus Material or Song Names on the DVD. I told them "DVD must have bonus material. It is expected these days".

Also Yngwie and I sat together and created the play order you see on the DVD today. In the real performance, Yngwie played the entire CONCERTO first and then all the rock numbers at the end. We felt for a video/DVD this built up too slowly. Copying the idea of James Bond movies (energetic face paced opening scene, slow down, plot development, build tension, climax). We sat with two VHS recorders and experimented with different song orders until we got the sequence you see today. I also invited 8 people to my house to preview our rough edit to see if they liked how it flowed. It was a unanimous "thumbs up". What you see on the DVD today is the result of all that effort.

Have you heard Attack! and if so what is your opinion on it?
I think "Attack" has a very fresh sound. Obviously it is still Yngwie but with all new band members and Tom Fletcher assisting with the engineering it really shines. I was happy to see "Razor Eater" and "Stronghold" make it to this album. When I was still working with Yngwie and we were discussing the direction for his next rock album, I commented that a few songs with a simpler rhythm section would work nice. I always like the contrast of a simpler song structure with the solos jumping out and taking you to a higher energy level as opposed to a song that is 300 mile per hour from beginning to end. I think the contrast is more effective than playing complex lines from beginning to end. With a new band and other things, I would think there are some good things in the future for Yngwie.

I would like to thank Mike once again for granting YJMGA this interview and giving us such an informative read which is sure to answer many of the questions and rumours that have been circulating over the last year.

 

 

 

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